Can you write me a virus? I've got some great swaps!

This is a real mail message that I received some time ago. Now I know that publicly releasing email without the sender's consent is considered bad, but there ought to be an exception in this case. Is this chap totally thick, or does he just like living dangerously? - in just a few words he manages to encourage both virus writing and (probably) software piracy, compounded by sending unsolicited email with probably forged addresses.

Now one should really complain, at least to his ISP, about this sort of thing. But would it do any good? - look at the Message-ID and X-Mailer below, and draw your own conclusions. The only one I can come to is that some people shoudn't be allowed near a computer at all.

  From: Dusty Irvin <>
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            with smtp (ANTmail1.15); id sm02bda28; Sat, 11 Jan 97 07:02 +0000
  Received: from by mailstore for
            id 852962491:6:04703:56; Sat, 11 Jan 97 06:01:31 GMT
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            by (8.7.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id AAA07312
            for <>; Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:00:00 -0600 (CST)
  Message-ID: <>
  Organization: BLAH
  X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I)
  Subject: Hi
  Date: Sat, 11 Jan 1997 00:00:14 -0600

  Since you write all these programs, I was wondering if you could write
  me a virus, any kind, just zip it and attach it too some email? will
  trade it for java scripts or applets.  Thanks

  I program java applets and I will program one if you would like

  PS: Coool Page

In a similar vein, although not in quite so many words, is this news posting. He (at least I assume, with a reasonable probability of being correct, that the sender is a "he") doesn't say much, and doesn't even try to forge his headers. But the content (brief though it is) says it all, and does nothing to dispel the bad image that his ISP already has:

  From: (AStokes512)
  Newsgroups: comp.sys.acorn.programmer
  Subject: programms or virus wanted
  Date: 29 Oct 1998 16:03:17 GMT
  Organization: AOL,
  Message-ID: <>

  if you have any programs for basic i could use or how to make a virus please e
  mail me

And here's another mail, in even fewer words. I was tempted to send back a reply with the single word NO, but then decided that not answering at all would be the best course of action.

  Return-Path: <>
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            by (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id GAA01016
            for <>; Sat, 21 Aug 1999 06:53:31 +0100
  Received: from by mailstore for
            id 934846625:20:03684:6; Mon, 16 Aug 99 23:37:05 GMT
  Received: from [] ([]) by
            id aa2003497; 16 Aug 99 23:36 GMT
  Received: from ([])
            by (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6)
            with SMTP id AAA23A9 for <>;
            Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:38:13 +1000
  Subject: email me back with instructions on how to write a virus
  Message-ID: <>
  Date: Tue, 17 Aug 1999 09:38:13 +1000
  can u email me back with instructions on how to write a virus
  thank you

They just keep on coming, don't they? Here is another:

  Return-Path: <>
  Received: from ( [])
            by (8.8.8/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA00619
            for <>; Sat, 20 Nov 1999 10:09:42 GMT
  Received: from by mailstore for
            id 942893536:20:10705:2; Thu, 18 Nov 99 02:52:16 GMT
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            id aa2010444; 18 Nov 99 2:51 GMT
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            by (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA13100
            for <>; Thu, 18 Nov 1999 10:46:51 -0500
  Message-Id: <>
  X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan v2.0
  Subject: how to write virus
  Date: Thu, 18 Nov 99 15:46:51 +0000

  my name is steven can u tell me how can i write my owe virus
  E-mail me at
  reply me as fast as u can 
  Thank you
  tell me how to write virus
  thank you


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